Anglican Samizdat

March 10, 2009

Anglican Church of Canada: tell us your stories – but read them really quickly before they disappear

Filed under: Anglican Church of Canada — David Jenkins @ 6:25 pm

As part of the ACoC’s Vision 2019, Fred Hiltz has asked people to “tell their stories”. The stories are being published on the Vision 2019 site. Oddly enough, the one I commented upon here has mysteriously vanished, to be replace by “story removed at authors request”. The author didn’t sound as if he were in the mood to have his post removed; not to worry, you can still read it.

In the meantime, here is another interesting comment;

Where is my Church now?

It is lost in the wilderness of secular society, trying to fit in. It has forgotten that Jesus Christ is not of this world, and neither is His Church. By trying to fit in to this world, the Anglican Church of Canada has moved away from Jesus Christ. Like the tree that bears bad fruit, it is being cut down and cast into the fire. Like the worthless servant, what treasure it was trusted with is being taken away.

What would I like my Church to do?

1. Get rid of the Book of Alternate Services, and use exclusively the Book of Common Prayer.

2. Remove from the Priesthood all homosexuals and women. Put an end to woman ordination. Require all Clergy, Priests, Deacons, and Bishops to be “a man of but one wife”, along with all of the other requirements given in 1 Timothy 3.

3. Remove from the Priesthood any and all persons who do not publically acknowledge Jesus Christ to be Devine, Resurrected (and that includes in body), and the one and only way to salvation.

4. No longer recognize any so called “marriages” or divorces performed by the courts of the secular government. Recognize only the marriages that were performed by a Priest in a Church, and only those divorces in which one of the spouses committed a sexually immoral act.

5. Define marriage as “an Act of God in which God Himself joins a man to his wife”.

6. Concentrate on following and obeying the Teachings of Jesus Christ and the Holy Word of God (that being the Holy Bible in its entirety). Spread His Holy Word to all who might hear it. Stop wasting time, effort, and resources on the Millennium Development Goals.

Read the surviving stories quickly before they evaporate.



  1. You may also like to read my “opion piece” that appeared on page 5 of the December issue of the Huron Church News. It may be found at

    Click to access Christmas%20HCN%202008small.pdf

    Comment by AllanP — March 16, 2009 @ 2:06 pm

  2. Thanks Allan,

    Interestingly, before my parish left the diocese of Niagara, in one of the clericus meetings the rectors joked about how they didn’t like reciting the Nicene Creed because they no longer believed it.

    Comment by David — March 16, 2009 @ 2:18 pm

  3. Hello
    If you would like to see Anglicans doing something about this problem try going to the Cranmer web site, this is a group of Anglican youth that think there needs to be a return to the BCP and what it means.

    Comment by Jacqueline Nusko Wiarton — March 19, 2009 @ 6:48 am

  4. Have been reading your posts all day – decided to have a relaxing day and stumbled across your site. For the most part I think your honesty and calling of people to righteousness and truth is fantastic and refreshing. You do not hide behind anything.

    I just wanted to give you some questions (which I am sure regardless you have probably researched the role of Women in the Church thoroughly in the bible before anyway….)

    My question is –
    If a woman was a sole survivor of a shipwreck and landed on an Island with no males who knew about Christ – would God forbid her to preach, teach and give communion to others and tell of His Good Word? Would God tell her to sit down and be silent? What is the difference between an Island and a City – if many men in a city are silent and are not standing up would God say to the women you cannot? I think Jesus would want as many men and women preaching His Good News as possible. Essentially there are no differences in my understandings of a Women Missionary, Preacher, Bishop, Deacon, Priest or Teacher – essentially they have the same goal and role…regardless of the setting.

    Does Christ not tell all believers male and female to go and preach His Good Word?

    Please if you have time read Women in the Church: A Biblical Theology of Women in Ministry by Stanley J. Grenz, Denise Muir Kjesbo – it may be a heart opener for you on some points in regard to the topic – may the Holy Spirit lead you.

    Your sister in Christ,

    Comment by Tia — January 14, 2010 @ 6:43 am

  5. Me again! Just realized that the above statements regarding women in the church were comments made by someone else and may not be views held by yourself – regardless my question still stands for any Anglicans (or Christians out there!) who may read your post above and agree with the points made in regard to women in the Church. My apologies if they are not your views.
    Kind regards,

    Comment by Tia — January 14, 2010 @ 6:50 am

  6. Tia,
    Yes, the comments were made by someone else. I am not opposed to women’s ordination or women preaching.

    Comment by David — January 14, 2010 @ 8:33 am

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